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yes yes rigged this cha cha that but please let’s not ignore this right now:

holyprincenerd:

https://www.aftonbladet.se/podcasts/ab/episode/355975

Swedish “eurovision expert” Tobbe Ek (for those of you who aren’t Swedish, this is the same guy who accused Måneskin of doing coke on live tv back in 2021) and his posse of minions decided that it was time to spread some absolutely hateful rhetoric against the people of Finland by calling them shitty, idiotic, telling them they should be ashamed of not voting for Sweden (??? literally what???) etc etc, while also dragging in other contestants like Lord of the Lost and insulting them as a means of questioning why the Finnish public voted for them but not for Sweden. (You know. Because it totally doesn’t make any sense at all that a country known for having the most metal bands per capita in the world would vote for Lord of the Lost. Not at all.) 

As the cherry on top of this xenophobic shit cake, they started to go on about how “There’s no way there were ten contestants who were better than Sweden this year.” (Again. Not only disrespecting the other contestants, but them pretending not to grasp the concept of a country known for preferring heavier music choosing to vote mostly for bands this year… Yeah… Couldn’t be their preferences…)

Again, this man is considered a Eurovision expert here in Sweden, yet this is the type of behaviour he and his coworkers display over a nonissue like the Finnish public not voting for Sweden this year. If there’s something shameful here, it’s this.

To reiterate: These are three grown-ass well past 40-year old people having a genuine meltdown over one (1) singular country not voting for them.

Why are we giving Tobbe Ek (and his irrelevant coworkers) a platform, again?


EDIT:

Hoo boy, there’s more. Because of course there is.

ALRIGHT here’s an article from one of our tabloids using quite suspiciously colonialistic sounding rhetoric about Finland being “the kingdom’s previous eastern half”.

https://www.expressen.se/noje/finska-sveket-mot-sverige-gav-noll-poang-efter-uppmaningen-rosta-taktiskt/

The specific quote in Swedish: “Tv-tittarna i tidigare östra rikshalvan gav nämligen Sverige noll(!) poäng under Eurovisionfinalen på lördagen.”

Translation: “TV viewers in [our] kingdom’s previous eastern half gave namely zero(!) points to Sweden during the Eurovision finale on Saturday.”

Yeah, Johan Bratell (the writer of the article) is technically not wrong about Finland having been a part of Sweden. But why bring this up now? This was so clearly meant as a condescending insult.

The article also talks about a throwaway comment that the Finnish commentator Mikko Silvennoinen made about tactical voting (or more specifically, an anonymous comment he read out loud about tactical voting). From my understanding this was a joke reference to the previous elections which took place recently in Finland and forced a portion of the Finnish public to vote tactically as an attempt to block a far-right party from getting into the parliament. It’s embarrassing how much these people are reaching.

And even if they were voting tactically, so what? Sweden won. Why are we so focused on the public vote of one (1) country, Jesus Christ this is embarrassing.


EDIT 2: WHY THIS MATTERS. A LOT.

For those of you who are not in the know about Swedish politics, these statements are reflecting some far-right political views that have their roots all the way back in the times when Sweden ruled over Finland. In recent memory, our far-right political party Sverigedemokraterna claimed that the Swedish minority group Tornedalians are not Swedish, because they may speak local dialects that blend Finnish into Swedish, or speak the minority language Meänkieli. Coincidentally, Meänkieli just so happens to be a minority language that blends Finnish and Swedish, as it is mostly spoken by people who live by the Torneå river, i.e. the Finnish-Swedish border. Here’s an article about this controversy (however you may not be able to read it unless you’re subscribed to said newspaper): https://www.dn.se/asikt/orimligt-att-tornedalingar-inte-skulle-vara-svenskar/?fbclid=IwAR33K_UVRhXlJhyPd3gY7GDXN_lotUdrtM1AeL-nRzWE26Tmq5BFE0lIUzw

Sverigedemokraterna also believe that the Swedish minority group of Sweden Finns should essentially cut their ties to their Finnish roots and that they should not be able to be citizens of both Finland and Sweden.
https://aip.nu/sverigedemokraterna-och-de-dubbla-medborgarskapen/

This sort of rhetoric is ridiculously common here, and in situations like the ones that have occurred in light of the ESC, they almost never get called out. Because it’s common. Because it’s okay to call Finnish people names and to use colonial rhetoric against all Finns, both those who live in Finland and those who live in Sweden. Because this is “friendly banter.” Mind you, as someone who technically belongs to both of the aforementioned minority groups I’m completely fine with the actually friendly banter and piss taking that we usually partake in, because it is just that. Friendly. But this is not it. This is actually harmful. I have never seen so many Swedish people attacking Finns on social media as I’ve seen these past few days. The usual colonialistic and fennophobic insults have started to rear their ugly heads: People have started to insult the Finnish language (a fennophobic sentiment that goes way back to the days when Finland was under Swedish rule and the Swedish tried to get rid of the language), they have started to insult the way Finns look (goes back to fennophobic rhetoric of Finns essentially not being “white enough”), etcetera. For more information on how the Swedish government treated the Sweden Finns and Tornedalians (the fact that they tried to abolish both the Meänkieli language and the Finnish language from Sweden and have even done skull measurements as an attempt to prove that these minority groups are not equal to Swedes), here’s another article: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/norrbotten/regeringen-tillsatter-sanningskommission

For those of you who speak Finnish and are interested in the topic, the book Kansankodin pimeämpi puoli by Tapio Tamminen goes into both issues, with photographic evidence of skull measurement incidents among other things.

Meanwhile, the Finnish media is mostly just reporting on the tomfoolery of these “journalists.” Sure, there are a lot of Finns who are acting out as well and spreading hateful rhetoric against Swedes, but the difference here is that one group is punching up, while the other is punching down.

Whether Tobbe Ek, Jenny Ågren, Markus Larsson and Johan Bratell meant to cause this does not matter. They’ve still done it, in the case of the former group, they’ve even dragged other Europeans (and Australians!) into this mess.

They’ve gone ahead and spread fennophobic rhetoric on huge platforms: Sweden’s biggest national tabloids. They should be held accountable for this.

To reiterate: ALL THIS OVER THE FINNISH PUBLIC “NOT VOTING FOR SWEDEN” DURING THE EUROVISION SONG CONTEST OF 2023.

Anyway, today I have to see man who rejected me face to face first time since rejection (and then every week for the rest of my life or something) and like, I am not looking forward the awkwardness urrrrghh

I have been rejected may many many many many times before, my rejection rate is pretty close to 100%, but like, at least before I’ve managed to step and be like I wish you happy rest of you life byeeeee

This is a new level of humiliation. But that’s what I get from listening good meaning advice, I invited the circus so now I have to clown.

Man, is the Finnish vs Sweden post!Eurovision drama getting heated xD

The funny thing is, that Swedish media getting stupid levels of petty, calling Finland “former East Sweden” and being angry that Finns just didn’t televote Loreen.

Like, sure, Finnish papers have been little bit extra lately, but Finnish media is taking all of this rather tongue in cheek in my opinion. Everybody loves an underdog, and even if there is legit criticism of the jury, I haven’t really seen anyone on this side of the pond be serious about Loreen not being fair winner as the current rules say. Meanwhile Swedes are demanding recounting Finnish televotes to prove they’re tampered with, like come on guys xDD That’s just how it feels for Finno-Ugrics every year when our closest allies backstab xDDD

I dunno, it’s just getting really funny. Maybe you can say Finns are tad sore losers sure, but I’ve never seen such a ass sore winners xDDD

It’s just a game, bro. Everyone is gonna televote Sweden next year don’t worry, everyone just really really fell in love with Jere from Vantaa this year. If you had a better sense of humor, you should ask Käärijä to perform with Loreen as a surprise next year and make it all silly ad in on the joke and not be so damn sourpussy xDDD

I can’t sleep, there is no sleep left in me. Can’t stomach to eat, but there’s hunger. I gave out my desires in a heart shaped block of fatty sugar, I guess it was bad for you, huh?

Maybe there wasn’t any signs. This time I felt so sure… I wasn’t this sure with a guy who asked me out and introduced me to his parents only to be not even interested in women. Like, that was disappointing, I cried a lot, but vibes were off, now that I think about it in hindsight.

What makes this incident in particular so humiliating is that you very well saw how I was analyzing the situation for months. There was nothing to be lost by being open, nothing really is broken now, but I really wanted to shelter myself. I was brave but it left me as minced meat.

Let me take it back the wrapping was so beautiful before the insides were devoured.

tesb:

“5 minutes before the performance I was still sure of victory. I didn’t win. Thank you and I’m sorry ❤️” @paidatonriehuja (Käärijä) on Instagram

It really felt like I had a green light - the man I had a crush on stopped me an talked to me over an half an hour. I felt, I swear I felt connection, I gave him a heart shaped chocolate that said “you’re lovely” and send a message after making my move.

But then I got thanks but no thanks. No hard feelings or anything, it’s just not the time and he doesn’t have a room for relationship. It’s not you it’s me right, right?

Doesn’t make my tears sting any less.

It’s a good thing to know that’s done and over with and I can just go on with my life. But I just seriously don’t want same anymore, but that’s what it is that’s that’s that. 

demonsandpieohmy:

This year: UK hosting on behalf on Ukraine

Next year: Sweden hosting on behalf of Finland

rbf451:

uudenmusiikinkilpailu ig story 13.5.2023

I am not necessarily against having some sort of jury in Eurovision, but like, I’ve said i once and I say it again: I do’t think it really has o have 50/50 split with the audience votes.

It can benefit the excitement factor when there is two sets of points to count, for shows’s perspective, and in a year where there is no obvious favorite it can break the habit of just voting your closest neighbor on habit - but you know, neighbor favoritism is what happens with or without jury, that’s just how Europe rolls.

And I am not saying this just as a sore loser (even if I am sore and a loser). But you know, you can’t deny, that same 12 people produce and write songs all over the Europe, they’re he powerful people in the industry and have influence on juries all over the ESC (coincidentally also often Swedish). That’s why their opinion is so homogenous and very similar every year. That does, in my opinion, rather put a shade on their opinion regardless.

Tho, Sweden - Finland match, pinned against each other, is something that will live on as a legend for years to come as is. And second place is not a shame by any means, and Swedes do know how to throw a party, so see you next year,

I voted for Croatia anyway xDDD

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